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Ken Salvail's avatar

Hi Patrick thank you for your good work! I too am enjoying the benifits of Carnivore. My mind is much sharper than before. Do you feel this carnivore lifestyle has helped you think through this amazing information? Im thinking so.

Botany driven carnavore Ken

Patrick Coles's avatar

Thank you Ken for the nice message! That’s a great point that carnivore boosts mental clarity. That’s wonderful that carnivore has made your mind sharper. I believe you’re right that carnivore diet has helped me to think clearly and work through these theories of chronic disease. Certainly, carnivore has boosted my son’s IQ as well. Wishing you the best!

Meredith's avatar

Would you say this is also the same concept for Graves’ disease

Patrick Coles's avatar

Yes, oxidative stress is well-documented in Graves’ disease. Many studies show elevated markers of lipid peroxidation and depleted antioxidants, with ROS contributing to tissue damage. Thanks very much for the insightful comment, I will consider possibly writing a blog about Graves' disease in the future.

Meredith's avatar

This is a belief I’ve always suspected about Graves’ disease. That it’s a toxicity problem. But I’m not always sure how to actually solve it so I can heal.

Patrick Coles's avatar

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. Based on my understanding, my top advice would be:

A carnivore diet. By doing a carnivore diet, you would eliminate multiple toxins that can damage the thyroid. These toxins in include: glucose, fructose, seed oils, oxalate, deuterium, and mycotoxins. The standard diet is full of these toxins, unfortunately. But on carnivore, you can dramatically reduce all of them. In addition, if you focus on a muscle-meat based carnivore diet (avoiding organ meats like liver), you can also eliminate excess copper from your diet, which is yet another toxin for the thyroid. Furthermore, animal meats are rich in selenium, and selenium is a key nutrient that the thyroid needs to boost its antioxidant levels.

In addition, you can avoid any radiation, do not get any x-rays that might damage your thyroid.

Also, you can avoid excess iodine. Moderate iodine is ok, but avoid high amounts of iodine.

Meredith's avatar

How long would you recommend someone to be on a carnivore diet?

Patrick Coles's avatar

Personally I plan on doing carnivore indefinitely, for the rest of my life. But if someone just wants to use it for detox, then I think it takes roughly 2 years to detox some of the key toxins. Oxalates can take about 2 years to get out of the system. Heavy metals and excess copper can take around 2 years to come out. And seed oils can take a few years to come out of the body.

Lindsay Moore's avatar

Patrick, I’m really enjoying your work! I just found you through the Terrain Theory podcast. I totally agree with your overall theory of toxic burden causing disease. I am struggling, however, with your thoughts on iodine. I’ve studied the work of David Brownstein and I also find the work of Lynne Farrow and her book “The Iodine Crisis” very informative. They argue that iodine pushes out the toxic halides such as flouride, chloride and bromide. There are tons of anecdotal reports of iodine changing peoples lives. Are you only steering Hashimoto cases away from iodine?

Patrick Coles's avatar

I'm very familiar with David Brownstein's protocol. In fact, I've already implemented his protocol on myself (two years ago), and it did not work for me. In fact, it damaged my thyroid. It's crucial to understand that excess iodine acts as a toxin. It creates oxidative stress on the thyroid. The hydrogen peroxide that excess iodine produces leads to thyroid damage. That's why excess iodine can be a cause of Hashimoto's.

Browstein's protocol can have dangerous consequences, especially for people who have an underlying iron overload or copper overload. Many people have excess free iron or free copper, which enhances the toxic effects of excess iodine. When you have too much copper or iron, then they turn the hydrogen peroxide (that iodine produces) into hydroxyl radicals, which damage the thyroid even more.

We have a zinc deficiency crisis - have you looked into zinc deficiency?? The majority of the world's population is zinc deficient. If you want to look into a real crisis, then look into the world's zinc deficiency. Every person should be taking a zinc supplement, as that is an actual real deficiency that people have.

Lindsay Moore's avatar

Is there a way to check for copper and iron levels that’s reliable?